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The Best Interview Question Yet – For the Candidate to Ask

One of the wonderful things about being a legal search consultant is that, even after over 30 years in the trenches, I learn something new almost every day. Today, I learned something from a candidate that I want to share, since it’s so good. This candidate, a mid-level associate, is wise beyond his years.

When debriefing this candidate after an initial job interview, he said he asked the question he always uses at the end of his interviews, as the answer reveals volumes about the actual job requirements, the interviewer’ expectations, and the priorities of the prospective law firm or in-house legal department. The answer lays out the road to success with that particular employer and allows the candidate to evaluate whether that is a path he can, or wants, to pursue.

The answer to this question gives him an opening during the interview to expand upon his strengths and fit for the position. Conversely, it also might reveal any weaknesses the interviewer perceives in the candidate, so he can address them before wrapping up the meeting.

So, what is this question? Drum roll, please . . .

Here it is: Imagine that you hire me for this position and, a year from now, we are sitting down for my performance evaluation. What could I have done during that year to exceed your expectations?

The candidate tells me that, usually, he is not too surprised by the answer, but finds it very helpful for him to wrap up the interview on a strong note. Today, however, was different. Today, the interviewing partner did not have a satisfactory answer to the question. The partner stumbled about a bit and could not provide any concrete information.

The candidate was surprised by this, but thought that the non-response was, itself, very revealing. It meant to him that the partner had not defined a clear role for the associate in this position. Since the candidate is interested in the law firm, based upon its reputation and other factors, he learned from the partner’s unclear answer that, if he is to pursue discussions with this firm further, he would need to make sure that other interviewers there could provide a much more substantive answer to this question. He wants to make sure that not only he, but also the lawyers for whom he would work,are clear about what it would take to succeed as an associate in that department.

He hopes to be invited back for another round of interviews, so he can ask that question again.

Valerie Fontaine is a partner in SeltzerFontaine, a legal search firm based in Los Angeles. The second edition of her book,“The Right Moves: Job Search and Career Development Strategies for Lawyers,” was published in 2013 by NALP. She can be reached at [email protected] or 310-842-6985.

Reconsidering Lateral Partner Moves After 60

By Keith Fall and Ross Weil

This year’s new partner classes are advancing at a watershed moment in US history: In 2019, US Census data predict, Millennials will replace Baby Boomers as the biggest segment of the country’s population. In raw numbers, among big firm attorneys, Millennials now outnumber Boomers by almost two-to-one (47,000 to 24,000 according to 2017 data from 400 firms analyzed by ALM Intelligence). However, younger attorneys, born between 1984 and 2004, account for just 5 percent of partners. By contrast, the same analysis found that 40 percent of the firms’ partners ranged in age from 53-to-71.

In our experience as legal recruiters, especially in the New York and tri-state markets, a growing number of Big Law firm partners are choosing to continue working well into their 60s and beyond—even if doing so requires a lateral move. And while a popular old tale holds that investing in senior laterals is an overly risky and expensive growth strategy, we beg to differ. Recent lateral moves that have made headlines support our argument, and illustrate how some law firm managers are creating fresh opportunities for older partners:

Last November, Chris Smith left Shearman & Sterling after 40 years. At 67, he lateraled in to
the New York office of DLA Piper, becoming co-chair of the firm’s 600-lawyer real estate practice.

Last April, Buckley Sandler announced it had recruited from Jones Day the celebrated white collar
defense lawyer Henry (Hank) Asbill. A self-described “child of the sixties,” Asbill has 40-plus years
of trial experience.

Drinker Biddle recently recruited from Carlton Fields a 17-lawyer litigation group headed by
insurance and financial institutions specialist James Jorden.

Since 2014, we’ve been involved in more than a half dozen lateral partner moves for lawyers born in the boom years between 1946 and 1965. We’ve worked with partners who, despite having thriving practices, sensed that they were being sidelined by their former firms. (Two of the senior partners we helped place had annual books-of-business worth more than $10 million.). Some had seen their compensation drop off solely because of their age. Others jumped ship to escape mandatory retirement policies. Without exception, these accomplished lawyers made lateral partner moves that have recharged their professional lives and revived their sense of purpose with firms that share their values and their aspirations for growth.

Of course, every deal has two sides, and in order to succeed, every senior lateral partner move requires that both the firm and the partner make express commitments concerning transition and integration. The strongest deals hinge on two core components:

1. The partner candidate must present an ironclad and long range business case. It’s not enough for a candidate to prove that their practice is portable and profitable. They must also map out how they personally will contribute to the firm’s growth strategies three-to-five years out.

In mid-2018, we played a role in a senior international arbitration expert’s move from one AmLaw 100 firm to another. The partner was motivated to make the move in part because his prior firm had scaled back the resources it once committed to supporting his practice. At the same time, although his collections had not fallen off, the firm had cut his compensation. His new firm has not only restored his earnings, it’s also investing in associates and other resources he requires to grow his practice.

2. The partner candidate must be a genuine fit with and serve a clear purpose in the hiring firm’s growth strategies in terms of practice area, geographic region, or industry. At a time when clients search out law firms with improved differentiation and preeminence, lateral candidates need to enhance a firm’s competitive brand as well as its bottom line.

In mid-2018, we were involved in a deal that came together in large part because the acquiring firm’s growth strategy aligned with that of the candidate partner, who is a well-known and widely respected real estate finance expert. Although his former firm is a recognized leader in the space, on balance, the partner saw a greater long-term opportunity and sensed a better cultural fit with a close competitor. Indeed, the new opportunity was so attractive, several of his colleagues decided to move along with the partner we advised.

Although the examples cited in this article suggest a promising trend of leaders in Big Law cultivating a renewed appreciation for older lawyers, we hear about age-based biases often, and law firms would be well advised to remember the cautionary tales of Sidley Austin and Kelley Drye & Warren. In 2007, after a hard-fought battle against the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Sidley agreed to pay $25.7 million to 32 partners it had demoted. And in 2012, the EEOC ordered Kelley Drye to pay $574,000 to a lawyer who opted to keep working after he hit 70. At the same time,the firm agreed to rescind its policy of requiring partners to give up their equity stakes at 70. As the EEOC’s general counsel explained in a statement released at the time: “There is no reason why attorneys who are capable of continuing to practice at 70 either should be forced to retire or otherwise be dissuaded from continuing to work in their chosen profession just because of their age.”

We encourage law firm managers to keep an open mind when considering senior lateral partners. Double down on your due diligence, but also be prepared to give them ample business development and other professional support necessary to ensure a successful transition. The positive results will surprise you.

Keith Fall and Ross Weil are Partners with the New York-based legal recruiting firm, Walker Associates
www.walkersearch.com

Career Advice With Frank D’Amore

Name: Frank Michael D’Amore
Company: Attorney Career Catalysts, LLC
Company Description: Legal Recruiting and Law Firm Mergers Firm
Company Website: www.attycareers.com

 What skills are most in demand in the legal industry right now?

IP continues to be hot and that is unlikely to change any time soon. Because of how litigation-heavy most law firms are—especially at the large firm level—there always is a need for lawyers in that practice. As a corollary, excellent transactional lawyers, because Continue reading Career Advice With Frank D’Amore

Lateral Associates Gain Leverage From 2018 Pay Hikes

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As Labor Day rolls around and first-year associates embark on their careers at AmLaw 200 firms, it’s an opportune time to reflect on how the salary and bonus increases triggered this summer by Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCoy and Cravath, Swaine & Moore will impact the lateral associate market. With top-of-the-market associate salaries now ranging from Continue reading Lateral Associates Gain Leverage From 2018 Pay Hikes

5 Skills to Develop Now to be Considered for GC in 5 Years

General counsel is a key role within any organization, and the skills required to be successful at it go way beyond legal knowledge. For a corporation to hand the reins of their entire legal department to one individual is a huge show of faith, and candidates looking to be seriously considered for a GC role must prove themselves worthy of the responsibility. A GC is highly skilled in a multitude of disciplines. They also must possess a deep knowledge of both legal and business matters, and be able to predict how they will intersect and affect one another.

The following are 5 key skills you’ll want to develop now to position yourself as a strong candidate for general counsel within 5 years.

Leadership Skills

They say great leaders are born, not made, but there are attributes possessed by natural leaders that can be practiced and learned. Start by consistently making opportunities happen. Become known by firm leadership as the in-house counsel who’s always taking on more than you’re asked to do. Take the helm on important projects and be sure your contributions have measurable impact on the firm’s bottom line. Great leaders have a tendency to make those around them great as well, so don’t miss out on opportunities to mentor and coach your peers and colleagues. Companies also want GCs who can effectively delegate responsibility.  By inspiring those around you, people will learn to follow your leadership, which builds your reputation and is a good way to get noticed as someone who can take charge.

Continue reading 5 Skills to Develop Now to be Considered for GC in 5 Years

Protect Yourself from Unauthorized and Unethical Resume Distribution

Given the active lateral market, we’ve been hearing more and more troubling stories about legal recruiters submitting resumes to employers without authorization. Not only is this highly unethical, it has broader consequences for the job-seeking attorney that can severely impact your employment prospects. This article explains Continue reading Protect Yourself from Unauthorized and Unethical Resume Distribution

Career Advice with Eve Saltman, General Counsel at GoPro

  • We’re pleased to provide another  chance to delve into the career journey of a successful lawyer in the field. Our latest interview of the series is with Eve Saltman, who has had an incredible 28 years in the industry and many more ahead of her with a multi-faceted role at GoPro.

 

Career Stats
Name: Eve Saltman
Current role: Head of Corporate/Business Development, General Counsel and Secretary, GoPro
Law School: Georgetown Law School
First job: First job out of law school: Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe, San Francisco
Years of experience: 28

  •  Tell us about your career path and how you got to be where you are today? 

The path I took to get to GoPro has allowed me to succeed in delivering sound counsel for a brand that is thriving, and that people know and love. I began my career at a law firm in San Francisco, Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe, where I worked as a litigator and also in the trademark registration practice. After seven years there, I wanted to go in-house to have a broader focus and be part of a business. Back then it was harder to find an in-house role, but I was lucky to find a recruiter that saw my skills were transferable to a role at Autodesk. I had to learn on the job how to do things like draft contract provisions and negotiate deals, but I was resourceful and figured it out. From there I went to a number of companies, taking on new areas to advise and manage – and learned how to build a high-performing teams. All of my career experiences and leanings have helped shape the exciting team I lead at GoPro today.

  • What qualities do you think make you successful in your role?

I value collaboration and strong relationships – enthusiasm for both these, along with some fun along the way, has helped make me successful at GoPro. There is nothing better than working with a great team, which I have in my current role. I also try to approach my work with compassion and thoughtfulness.  It’s important to understand where people are coming from and to be open to their point of view. At the end of the day, getting things done that ladder back to GoPro’s forward looking plan is what makes me a successful counselor and leader.

  • What do you know now that you wish you knew when you were starting out your legal career?

It might take longer in your career to get where you want to be.  It’s easy to get fixated on title, reporting structure, and comparing yourself to others. If you like what you are doing, and you work hard to keep learning, you will learn and progress. There are variables to that, but if you start with a role that you enjoy you will be able to navigate them easily.

  • What causes are you personally invested in (eg. diversity, politics, environment, mentorship)?

I’m passionate about career development and mentorship. Building a high-performing, engaged team is incredibly rewarding and that’s what we are focused on at GoPro. I also enjoy providing career advice to others – helping people connect with others who can help them. Separately, I’m on the board of a non-profit called Lexicon of Sustainability, which brings a new perspective to educating people on sustainability consumption habits.

  • Beyond work, what are you most passionate about?

I’m passionate about spending time with family and friends, staying connected to what people I care about are doing. I love that I can mix my work and passion – capturing moments with my GoPro enables me to provide encouragement for their activities as well as keep friends and family updated on what I’m doing too! Recently, my daughter and I did a mother’s day hike with our dog, and we collaborated on a short video that we both love.

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